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Dear friends,

I am now trying to record the NOESY spectrum of my 30 amino acids peptide on DRX600 with a TXI cryo probe in a tris buffer with 10% D2O. But I got a quite bad resolution of my data compared with reported one. I used good tubes and reagents, tuned and matched well. For shimming I used 1D1H gradshim. Do I need to perform even better shimming? And how can I do it? Or maybe it is because of something else?

Could you offer me some suggestions?

Thank you very much in advance!

asked Jun 06 '11 at 06:16

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resolution of a simple 1D is good ? - Yoan Monneau (Jun 06 '11 at 12:44)


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Thank you both very much! I will try your suggests and then tell the result later.

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answered Jun 07 '11 at 12:19

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updated Jun 07 '11 at 12:20

Hey Yun Wang, you're welcome. Please use comments to follow up. It heps to keep the forum cleaner and more readable. Thanks! - Evgeny Fadeev (Jun 07 '11 at 14:00)

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It is easy to verify your shimming - add a tiny (probably 50 uM will be visible) amount of TSP or DSS - water soluble molecule with trimethyl-silyl groups. It should give a sharp peak and will give you a 0 ppm reference.

If the reference compound peak is sharp, but your peptide is not - something must be happening with the peptide - like aggregation or chemical exchange on the intermediate time scale.

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answered Jun 07 '11 at 10:39

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To start with, you must ensure that the resolution and sensitivity are good enough in your 1D spectrum. Indeed, quality tubes and good tuning/matching are essential, but in addition I would suggest to try to further optimize the shimming manually after gradshim, using your BSMS keyboard. If your peptide is rather stable, You could also perform several 1H NMR at different temperatures/pHs in order to search what conditions give the best resolution and signal dispersion. What is your sample concentration by the way?

Then comes the NOESY experiment itself, and loads of parameters that can be adjusted. You can of course increase the number of scans (NS) and the size of FID (TD) in both dimensions. The mixing time (d8) is a very important parameter that should be optimised by doing a NOE build-up curve. The way that the data processing is done can have a big impact too on the final rendering: sometimes manual rephasing + noise filtering is necessary.

If all this doesn't help to get a nicer 2D, you should consider running a ROESY instead: for a mid-size molecule like yours, it would not be surprising that ROEs give a much better result.

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answered Jun 07 '11 at 10:24

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