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Hello,

Here are Bruker hmbc pulse programs (produced by ls *hmbc*):

hmbcacbigpl2ndqf  hmbcacgplpqf    hmbcetgpl2nd  hmbcgplpndqf  
hmbclpndqf  hmbcndpsqf    hmbcacgplpndqf    hmbcetgpjcl2nd  
hmbcgpl2ndqf  hmbcgpndqf    hmbcndprqf   shmbcgpndqf

Which would you run and for what reason?

(... I know that hmbcetgpjcl2nd - is a J-HMBC for measuring J coupling constants - what about the others?)

I'd like to document some on the wiki (here is the documentation for jhmbc) but I don't know which are more frequently used.

Thanks.

asked Jul 16 '10 at 13:08

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I use hmbcgplpndqf as routine for structural elucidation. However, some artifacts have been found in spectra.

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answered Oct 07 '11 at 20:40

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From the above list I would use hmbcetgpl2nd if you have gradients. This is a HMBC with double low pass filter for better suppression of 1J(C,H) and it is a semi phase sensitive experiment resulting in better resolution in the carbon dimension. The processing is done by doing the 2D ft with xfb and then a magnitude calculation along the observed dimension with xf2m. In newer software there is also a version with triple low pass for even better suppression of direct correlations. Write me directly to get a copy.

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answered Feb 18 '11 at 09:11

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I routinely use the hmbcgplpndqf. On rare occasions I get better results with the simplified hmbcgpndqf. It seems the low pass filter can now and then decrease the sensitivity and supress some multiple-bounds correlations of interest. I wonder if this has been optimized in the 2-filtering step version mentioned by Tim?

I would be interested also to hear some user feedbacks about the STAR-HMBC (hmbcacbigpl2ndqf). Looks like a useful experiment for many cases of structural elucidation.

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answered Feb 15 '11 at 06:11

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I would recommend using hmbcgpl2ndqf for "routine" 1H-13C HMBC use, provided you have gradients. This is a simple and robust sequence and contains a 2-step low pass filter for removal of one-bond responses (as opposed to hmbcgplpndqf which contains only a single step filter). Alternatively, hmbcetgpl2nd can lead to phase-sensitive data in F1 (13C) which has the potential for better resolution, but the processing is a little more complex and for most instances of small-molecule work is probably of minimal advantage.

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answered Jul 23 '10 at 04:26

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A couple of months back, I helped a user here to run hmbc using "hmbcgplpndqf". He is using that since then. No complaints. I guess that works fine for him.

-Ilango.

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answered Jul 19 '10 at 10:36

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I usually use hmbcgplpndqf. Has been satisfactory for me. I'll try the IMPACT-HMBC.

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answered Jul 17 '10 at 03:27

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updated Jul 19 '10 at 13:38

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