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Hello, I've been working through the probe performance tests and noticed that when I change pfgon='yyy' to pfgon='nyn' lock level drops to about 50% of the previous.

Does it indicate some problem in the PFG amplifier or elsewhere?

Thank you.

P.S. gradtype setting on our system is 'ttt'

asked Jan 15 at 09:26

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updated Jan 15 at 10:31

Evgeny, Do you have three axis (x, y, z) gradients? Or z axis only? -Kirk - Kirk Marat (Jan 15 at 10:15)

we have triaxial gradient probe and three channel grad. amplifier, thanks. - - Evgeny Fadeev (Jan 15 at 10:35)


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All of my experience is with the single axis gradient system, but I would guess that the three axis system would be the same.

I don't think you have a problem. When the amplifier is on but not pulsed (pfgon = 'yyy', but no experiment running) there is a tiny leakage current through the gradient coil(s). This current is relatively stable, so you can easily compensate for it with the shim settings. However, if you turn one or more of the amplifier(s) off (e.g. pfgon = 'nyn') then the shims are compensating for a leakage current that isn't there, thus the drop in lock level. You can re-shim for the new pfgon setting, although I think it is probably best to simply leave the pfg setting at 'yyy' or whatever is appropriate for your probe. e.g. if you have a three axis probe then you can probably leave it at 'yyy' all of the time. Is there a reason why you wanted a setting of 'nyn'? If you have experiments that require changing the pfgon setting you could simply create shim files for each of the required settings.

Can anyone from Varian comment on this?

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answered Jan 15 at 11:47

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Thanks, Kirk. I've now narrowed it down to 'yyy' -> 'nyy', so it's caused by the X gradient. There is no reason for me to use setting other than 'yyy', just discovered this by playing with the parameters. - Evgeny Fadeev (Jan 15 at 12:08)

What I'm wondering is whether that silent current might cause distortions to the field which might be hard to compensate with shims? - Evgeny Fadeev (Jan 15 at 15:45)

Agaim, my experience is with the z gradient only, not x, y, z. I think that as long as the leakage current is not huge, shimming it out will not be a problem. There are many good reasons for the engineers to make the gradients "pure z", pure x etc. We have no problem getting ls spec. with amp on. - Kirk Marat (Jan 19 at 05:30)

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