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Diagnosing 1D selective NOE issues

I'm trying to diagnose a possible issue performing a selective 1D NOE (selnogp) on a Bruker Avance II 500Mhz with TopSpin 2.1.

I have been testing a variety of samples in D20 or D20-H20. I'm observing "strange" looking line shapes, and I was curious if you had any insight on what factors could be at play here. I'm not sure if this is a normal issue due to multiplet structures, or a possible configuration issue with our gradients.

For example, attached are two control experiments (First: 0.1% H20 in 99.9% D20 || Second: 0.1% EtOH in 99.9% D20). For the short mixing time (d8), the irradiated lineshape has a "hump". In other samples, I believe this hump is also causing issues with the S/N of the various NOEs that I might observe.

Do you have any suggestions about this? Below is a list of things I've already tried.

  1. Tried autoshim, didn't change much
  2. Tried adjusting relaxation delay (d1) from 1 to 5 s, didn't see a big effect
  3. Tried lb, but it ended up smearing the humps into smooth but non-symmetric lineshapes
  4. Tried using other systems (EtOH in D20, peptides)
  5. Tried re-phasing--there's no way to make the "hump" disappear

Below I've got

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posted Mar 05 '14 at 11:07

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Diagnosing 1D selective NOE issues

I'm trying to diagnose a possible issue performing a selective 1D NOE (selnogp) on a Bruker Avance II 500Mhz with TopSpin 2.1.

I have been testing a variety of samples in D20 or D20-H20. I'm observing "strange" looking line shapes, and I was curious if you had any insight on what factors could be at play here. I'm not sure if this is a normal issue due to multiplet structures, or a possible configuration issue with our gradients.

For example, attached are two control experiments (First: 0.1% H20 in 99.9% D20 || Second: 0.1% EtOH in 99.9% D20). For the short mixing time (d8), the irradiated lineshape has a "hump". In other samples, I believe this hump is also causing issues with the S/N of the various NOEs that I might observe. At longer mixing times, it seems like the humps disappear. The literature suggests that I should be able to achieve decent results even with short (~50ms) mixing times.

Do you have any suggestions about this? Below is a list of things I've already tried.

  1. Tried autoshim, didn't change much
  2. Tried adjusting relaxation delay (d1) from 1 to 5 s, didn't see a big effect
  3. Tried lb, but it ended up smearing the humps into smooth but non-symmetric lineshapes
  4. Tried using other systems (EtOH in D20, peptides)
  5. Tried re-phasing--there's no way to make the "hump" disappear

Below I've got

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posted Mar 05 '14 at 11:07

kyleabeauchamp's gravatar image

kyleabeauchamp
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Diagnosing 1D selective NOE issues

I'm trying to diagnose a possible issue performing a selective 1D NOE (selnogp) on a Bruker Avance II 500Mhz with TopSpin 2.1.

I have been testing a variety of samples in D20 or D20-H20. I'm observing "strange" looking line shapes, and I was curious if you had any insight on what factors could be at play here. I'm not sure if this is a normal issue due to multiplet structures, or a possible configuration issue with our gradients.

For example, attached are two control experiments (First: 0.1% H20 in 99.9% D20 || Second: 0.1% EtOH in 99.9% D20). For the short (<= 1s) mixing time (d8), the irradiated lineshape has a "hump". In other samples, I believe this hump is also causing issues with the S/N of the various NOEs that I might observe. At longer mixing times, times (>= 1s), it seems like the humps disappear. The literature suggests that I should be able to achieve decent results even with short (~50ms) mixing times.

Do you have any suggestions about this? Below is a list of things I've already tried.

  1. Tried autoshim, didn't change much
  2. Tried adjusting relaxation delay (d1) from 1 to 5 s, didn't see a big effect
  3. Tried lb, but it ended up smearing the humps into smooth but non-symmetric lineshapes
  4. Tried using other systems (EtOH in D20, peptides)
  5. Tried re-phasing--there's no way to make the "hump" disappear

Below I've got

alt text alt text alt text alt text

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